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Another Debate With My Liberal Buddy
who thinks jeopardizing someone else's family to risk injury or death is justified by liberal government effetes,
who's salaries we pay!

my Buddy Contends:
Yeah, I saw that live yesterday and agree with him. We should all know who has "stolen" our money.

Didn't matter what Frank did anyway.... the NY Attorney Gen. already got subpoenas for the names....Death threats, it comes with public jobs and AIG is a public company now, it's 80% owned by us....Stop picking on ole Barney.... he's trying to get Pot legalized on the Fed level, while several others are trying on the state level in CA. It will save BILLIONS, plus bring in Billions via tax revenue, just like alcohol.

Ultimately, that's "how the system works", everyone in Government just out for their own districts in return for their votes, are out for himself.
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Lone Rider retorts;
(that's "how the system works",,,,,,?)

Shouldn't, it's a rouse to gain control of private businesses by a certain party of government.
That is Communism and it is not "our system".

After $11,000,000,000,000., that 11 Trillion bucks,
SPENT, Squandered and misappropriated for The War On Poverty since 1960 with 33 years of a totally controlled congress by the "LEFT" till 1994,
all blown to "eliminate poverty", promises, promises, promises
THEY didn't solve it!...............Did It?

Government had one major task 200+ years ago;
to defend the borders and protect against all enemies, foreign and domestic,
but not run every aspect of our lives, the exact opposite!

Government can't do even (1) thing well,
besides bomb enemies and break things (paraph: Rush Limbaugh)
and we aren't even allowed to do that right anymore either.

Think Universal Health Care is a "right", a gift, a necessity?
Universal Health will subjugate doctors who will now make a monetary judgment, along with their Government Committee Masters on your health and whether you can receive any type operation, even to save your life,
based on your age if over 50 and if that's OK with you because they said You should be happy to save your country that money,
much better spent on someone younger,
so just go home and die for the Fatherland.....It's patriotic!

Wasn't that the Movie: Soylent Green, because it wasn't Soy?

These guys can't even run the Veteran's Admin. well,
with or without dilapidated rat infested hospitals for our Vets in Washington and around the country
and Now President Obama this week wants Our Armed Forces that are protecting US from around the globe,
our returning heroes, that should now access their own personal family health insurance to kick in 1st to save the Government $600 million dollars.

Are you freak'n kidding me?
He just gave $300 Millions for Tattoo Removal in LA and New Housing for Prostitutes in San Francisco last week!

Just wait till we're hit again and the "All Volunteer" Military doesn't want to volunteer to work for this guy anymore, but of course they still would under those circumstances.

So let's say, the President decides to go to Darfur just like he said he would, maybe after he gets back from Jay Leno's car collection,
and He gets in between some more Warring Tribes,
but now it'll be totally righteous Dudes and then the enlistment goes down because no one wants to "pay out of pocket" for getting shot or crippled
and he re-institutes the Draft so now government elected official's children and Hollywood's offspring can go defend all of US and The Constitution on foreign shores: Great.

I'm sure we won't hear any bellyaching from the "Left" then
and all the Hollywood Stars would trundle their kids right down to the draft board to be 1st in line!

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He Contends:
("in return for their votes, are out for himself")

LONE RIDER retorts;
There you are 100% correct,
but spending Trillion$ using "markers" doesn't create jobs,
it buys people's souls once government pays us all,
no one will ever vote otherwise,
then We're Lost!

I'm personally a bit Libertarian here for your legalizing drugs and prostitution to brake the backs of the drug lord's and gangster's"bottom-line",
kill crime for a change instead of the innocent
and prevent young girls from being kidnapped and taken over southern borders for sex slaves,
but ultimately it would probably destroy the country anyway
and as you're driving home late at night with 50% of the drivers coming in the opposite direction are chemically impaired,
but you're not worried about unintended consequences I guess.

Few people today rarely are
so we get these overlapping, ever more complex and compounded issues destroying the government and the nation with good intentions and unintended consequences.
We pay theses guys and they don't even bother to Read the Fine Print while spending a Trillion Dollar$, so what do you expect.

I expect nothing from them and wish we could fire them all and start over with fresh minds and hearts & 2 Term Limits, but I digress.
Of course, if you're stoned too you probably won't care
because when You get to the hospital they'll going to Euthanize You under the New Plan anyway....

That's what I've never understood about Liberalism or Democrats for that matter,
They never deliver on the promise! ....

I almost think that's by design. The Democrats were the Plantation Owners remember, so the poor and the illegals and the disenfranchised and lest we forget the downtrodden African-Americans, who've never had a break,
will continue to buy into this Great Lie:
(vote for me and I'll solve all your problems), sound familiar,
and they take the handouts and freebies and keep voting for "The Man",

but, as Confucius said:
give a man a fish he eats for the day, teach a man to fish he never goes hungry!
He must have been a Conservative.

I guess you and I will never agree here Bud but I appreciate the sparring, keeps me current and sharp.

Talk later,

Ps, Hunting down one's children to extract a pound of flesh for the father's sins isn't justified under any circumstances in any civilized society
except for the Mafia, Islamic Extremists and your basic terrorist pogrom network.

You know, like those stellar individuals that Obama doesn't want to offend that either;
Bomb women, children and the elderly,
Chop-Off heads,
Hang Bullet riddled Incinerated bodies from bridges,
Kidnap females of all ages,
Steal young boys as work slaves,
Sells and Manufactures Drugs to enslave the world's populations
just because they're stone-age ignorant, bored with life in the desert,
or had permissive parents and don't want to get a real job,
or had a Liberal education,
or GOD told them to do it.

Yeah, those Guys
we don't want to upset and leave alone
and everything will be OK!

Barney: A Billion here, a Billion there,
pretty soon you're talking about some real money.

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